We were with 6 (me and my bf and a family with 2 children from the hotel we stayed in) and when we arrived at mount Batur we first had to go through the Batur maffia. We already knew we would not need a guide for this easy walk, but they of course forced us to take a guide otherwise we would not be allowed to walk up. We agreed and wanted to pay for one guide, which is 400k Then they said one guide is only for 5 people and since we were with 6, we had to pay 200k more because the guide would gave extra work. So ridiculous!!! Normally you pay half the price for children and here we had to pay the price of 2 adults for 2 children. After this nice surprise we started the hike. We could immediately stop walking since the whole way up was just one big traffic jam of tourists and expensive guides that are useless. We were definitely waiting longer than we were actually hiking. Besides that me and my bf did not even see our guide for the entire way up. I was still a bit ill so did not feel like trying to overtake all the tourists, but the family did and the guide just went with them, so where did we even pay for?!! Eventually we reached the summit after a lot of waiting, but it was too cloudy to see the sunrise. After about one hr the sky became clearer and we had a nice view, but it was not worth the money and the traffic jam. Better just hike a mountain for free and without tourist traffic jams in Europe.