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nice coastal bus or train to Buenes Aires?

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And if it exists, is it safe? I will be traveling with my Filipino wife.

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No train, but various bus routes:

Semi-coastal bus & ferry: São Paulo to Buenos Aires:

https://bit.ly/2PL9EWN

Inland bus from São Paulo to Buenos Aires:

https://bit.ly/2Lk8KSn

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Excellent website, thanks a lot!!

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one thing to bear in mind... the "coastal road" BR-101 is not really "coastal" for long stretches, but rather some kms inland... so dont expect a scenic journey, if that is what you are aiming at..

one has to often to take detours from the 101 to reach beachfront areas.

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yah, was hoping for a scenic route. at 32 hours journey and roughly the same price or more expensive than a simple flight, guess it wouldnt be worth it without at least a sufficient percentage of it being scenic. do you have an idea?

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About 20 years ago, the road from Rio to São Paulo was absolutely astonishing. Now the vegetation and the favelas growed a lot, and the road itself has few views to the sea. But it's still an amazing route, if you can spend some days at the beaches along it.

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you know anything about buying a van to eventually bring it into argentina, where we want to live for a couple of years? would be nice to dillydally our way there, poking and staying on the beaches occasionally. we both work online so have no set schedule.

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from SP southward:

SP to Curitiba: mostly inland... or coastal road is built up without nice views

from Curitiba to northern part of state of Santa Catarina: inland too

coast of state of Santa Catarina: probably best stretch (closest to beaches)

from there to Porto Alegre: road not really coastal

or if taking the route thru Chui to Uruguay: not much views, area is sort of "desolate" in terms of landscapes; some people like the "desolate" look though; others find it monotonous.

as Manoel said, trip may be worth it (scenic-way) if you have time to detour and enjoy beaches along the way (good beaches end in Torres - border of Santa Catarina and Rio Grande do Sul states; beaches/water in state of RS not that nice)...

if you have ample time, head from SP to the southernmost part of state of SP... area around Cananeia has pristine coastal Atlantic forest, dolphins near the coast etc... same in coast of state of Paraná...(and unfortunately, yellow fever outbreak earlier this year too... get vaccines at least 10 days in advance... see post #34 and links in there):

https://www.tripadvisor.com/ShowTopic-g294280-i1045-k11917603-o30-Yellow_fever_2018_second_half_update-Brazil.html#99643068

https://www.tripadvisor.com/Attractions-g644403-Activities-Cananeia_State_of_Sao_Paulo.html

if you speak/read Spanish, ask about the trip in the Spanish-language version of TA.... many Argentine tourists drive from Arg to the beaches in state of Santa Catarina in the summer...

https://www.tripadvisor.es/ShowForum-g294280-i1045-o40-Brazil.html

some red tape to buy a car in Brazil and then move it to Argentina (check requirements in Arg forum)

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if you have time and are interested in more than beaches, southern Brazil has a lot of attractions not too far from the coast.

[most North American/European/English-speaking contributors to TA seem to know only the "stereotypical" beach/tropical Brazil]

some examples:

canyons in Aparados da Serra Natl Park:

https://www.tripadvisor.com.br/Attractions-g1205059-Activities-Cambara_do_Sul_State_of_Rio_Grande_do_Sul.html

drive in Serra do Rio do Rastro (not sure if I would enjoy it on a van though, lol):

https://www.tripadvisor.com/Attraction_Review-g4084093-d2405960-Reviews-Serra_do_Rio_do_Rastro-Lauro_Muller_State_of_Santa_Catarina.html#REVIEWS

wine region... main towns are Bento Gonçalves and Garibaldi:

https://www.tripadvisor.com/Attractions-g680210-Activities-Bento_Goncalves_State_of_Rio_Grande_do_Sul.html

(including the Caminhos de Pedra drive thru the non-winery countryside, with stops on small properties selling produce etc; area settled by Italian immigrants in 19th century):

https://www.tripadvisor.com.br/Attraction_Review-g680210-d2050001-Reviews-Caminhos_de_Pedra-Bento_Goncalves_State_of_Rio_Grande_do_Sul.html#REVIEWS

https://www.tripadvisor.com/Attractions-g1023738-Activities-Garibaldi_State_of_Rio_Grande_do_Sul.html

twin towns of Gramado and Canela (latter has a nice waterfall too):

https://www.tripadvisor.com/Tourism-g303536-Gramado_State_of_Rio_Grande_do_Sul-Vacations.html

https://www.tripadvisor.com/Tourism-g775227-Canela_State_of_Rio_Grande_do_Sul-Vacations.html

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thanks for the tips. took a close look at maps.me and some vids online and seems most of the way it is at least a couple of km inland, so not often a scenic view, but if i did manage this we would certainly dillydally our way, diving into the beaches whenever possible. we fly into sao paulo and wanna head to rio de janeiro before heading south, but first a "quick" pitstop of the amazon was hoping. but i guess that would be quite a far detour? what a massive country :o

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If you do get a van, you need to be very careful about where you drive. The Foreign Office of Brazil advises tourists to be wary of straying into favelas while driving.

"All favelas are unpredictably dangerous areas, and remain high risk given the level of violence within them and the severe strain on police resources," its website says.

"Take extra care when using GPS navigation in Brazilian cities, particularly Rio de Janeiro, that the suggested route doesn’t take you into a favela."

Two years ago, a 70-year-old businesswoman was shot dead after using a mobile phone app which made her take a wrong turn into a favela in Rio de Janeiro.

A senior U.S. diplomat in Brazil was shot during an attempted robbery on a highway near Rio de Janeiro.

Rio carjackers took Brazilian football player’s Range Rover at gunpoint (video):

http://bit.ly/2z6QsMG

Police in Rio de Janeiro said they shot dead a Spanish tourist after the car she was in failed to stop at a police roadblock in the Rocinha favela.

http://bit.ly/2l9xeRp

British woman shot as gang opens fire on family after straying into favela near Rio:

http://bit.ly/2vG8GUH

A female driver ran over armed thugs who had tried to hijack her vehicle in Rio.

The woman had been driving through the Lagoa neighborhood of Rio de Janeiro on September 3rd 2018 when a car pulled up ahead of her and three men got out.

Her dashcam captured the moment one thug stands in front of her vehicle, pointing a gun in her direction. But she quickly accelerates her car and makes her escape while the thugs are seen desperately scrambling to get out of the way and shooting at her.

She was not injured during the attempted robbery although one of the thugs did fire at her, according to Globo.com.

https://glo.bo/2AoK56G

A motorist survived an ambush of heavily armed robbers who unleashed a barrage of more than 30 bullets in a suspected car-jacking in Tijuca, north zone Rio de Janeiro:

https://dailym.ai/2RVE6gZ

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