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itinerary help! NL and/or BE from Rotterdam

Los Angeles...
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itinerary help! NL and/or BE from Rotterdam

We are a family traveling with a 3yo and 6yo. We are thinking of taking the Hull-Rotterdam ferry this July. We had initially anticipated spending ~a week in Belgium (coming in via plane), but since we found the ferry we're wondering if we should try something different.

Should we hang out in the Netherlands instead? Do a bit of BE and a bit of NL? Head straight to NL as planned? How much can we do via train vs. cars assuming baggage is manageable?

Some preferences for context:

-- We like the outdoors, museums, animals, playgrounds, water, kayaking, hikes less than ~7km, history, things that move (cars, trains, etc!), cute older towns but not necessarily exclusively, bicycles/biking, maybe a mix of bigger cities and smaller towns

-- Prefer not to be in the car for multiple hours multiple times, but 1-2 longer rides and other shorter hops for day trips are fine.

-- We haven't decided whether to rent a car or not, and if we do, whether we do so for the entire trip or just a section.

-- 6-8 days on the ground. (arrive early morning on the ferry is day 1.)

Any thoughts, wisdom, and ideas are very much appreciated!

(cross-posting in BE forum!)

Winter Haven...
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1. Re: itinerary help! NL and/or BE from Rotterdam

Just a thought based on your questions and preferences. Whether taking your car with the ferry or flying and taking the train, you might consider heading for the Hanseatic Cities in the east. Consider using Zwolle as your base and branch out from there. About an tour by train from Schiphol or 90 minutes by car from Rotterdam.

Your question about using a car for the entire trip is pertinent as it would be a hindrance in cities as well as expensive to park.

All the towns have their own personality and bring something different to the party. Great region to spend your 8 days to relax, visit and explore. Also consider visiting Leeuwarden by train at just about an hour. Capital of Friesland where a different language is spoke, vibrant university town, and 2018 cultural capital of Europe.

https://www.visithanzesteden.nl/

"Not all those who wander are lost.” ― J.R.R. Tolkien

Edited: 2 years ago
Breda, The...
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2. Re: itinerary help! NL and/or BE from Rotterdam

Your profile indicates you’re based in the USA. Does that mean that you’ll be renting a car in the UK? If so, have you thought about the implications of driving on the right side of the road in a car with the steering wheel on the wrong side? And if you plan to drop your UK rental car in The Netherlands or Belgium, you will have to pay a hefty one-way drop off fee, because your UK rental car will have to be brought back to the UK.

As far as where to visit, there are loads of options. You can very easily spend 6-8 days in Belgium without getting bored, the same for the Netherlands. What were your plans for Belgium before you discovered the Hull-Rotterdam ferry? What attracts you to the Netherlands? Are these 6-8 days in NL and/or Belgium part of a bigger itinerary? If so, how full is that itinerary already?

Amsterdam, The...
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3. Re: itinerary help! NL and/or BE from Rotterdam

A lot of things are possible and suitable with your wide array of interests. I'll just give you some random remarks and you can do with them what you like. :-)

- The Ardennes region in Belgium has kayaking, biking, rappelling/ climbing and other outdoor sports and activities. And war museums, beer breweries, impressive big caves you can visit with a guide (for example Remouchamps or Han), cute medieval towns such as Durbuy and Spa (but also very depressing ugly villages, just see the instagram account "ugly Belgian houses",... so always do a Google Streetview before deciding where you're staying). You would need a car for convenience in this region, public transport is not so frequent and dense.

- With children of that age, the type of holiday a lot of Dutch parents choose to do is to book a bungalow in one of the many bungalow parks like Landal, Eurocamps, Roompot and others (I would avoid the outdated and dirty CenterParcs). This has the big advantage of (usually) being in a nature area, having all kinds of playgrounds, a pool, organized activities for children (from baking pizzas or cookies to all kinds of creative or active sessions), free parking, a private bungalow with kitchen, private terrace and TV, and privacy at night for the parents, restaurant and little grocery store on site, and other children to play with of course. From there it's easy to make plans last-minute (dependent on your mood / the children's moods, the weather or whatever), for example visit nearby towns, museums, zoos / wildlife parks, special playgrounds, the beach / forest or whatever.

Personally I would not want to have a typical "grown-up" holiday doing museums and historical towns and seeing lots of "sights" with such young children who have completely different interests. It's nice to bring them along for an hour or two, for example to a museum, but I'm sure they also simply want playtime? I would google for specific places that are fun for both adults as well as children, for example Apenheul monkey zoo could be fun, or Beekse Bergen (the latter even has bungalows where you can stay and see giraffes from your window).

Various museums have special puzzle tours or other fun things for children but the 3 y/o may be super bored quickly, not understanding such things fully yet?

- If you happen to go southeast near Venlo / Arcen in the Netherlands: Irrland play park in Germany (just across the border near Arcen) is absolutely fantastic for kids under 12. It's much cheaper than Dutch play parks (€7.50 per person, as opposed to €38 and up for De Efteling in the Netherlands for example), it is huge, there is free parking, you are allowed to bring in your own food (unlike many other Dutch parks / zoos) and use the BBQ's in the park; or buy food / candy there; there are picnic tables next to everything that children can play on so that you can sit and relax and watch your child. There are tall slides, air pillows, rope towers, a corn "bath" to sit in and play with the corn, skelters, and lots more (mostly) non-electric playground equipment. There is also a small shallow stream that children love to play in when it's warm so bring towels and swimgear. You can rent a handkart to transport your stuff more easily (as said it is a huge park).

- Duinrell in Wassenaar near The Hague is a swimming pool with lots of spectacular slides and I believe there is also a bungalow park there. This could be a convenient location if you want to visit some bigger cities as a daytrip (by Dutch / Belgian norms, definitely tiny when compared to LA where you seem to be from!), such as The Hague, Delft, Leiden, Rotterdam, and Antwerp in Belgium. You could probably do so easily by public transport.

- If I were you I'd buy or borrow a Lonely Planet Netherlands and Belgium guidebook so that you have all the info about getting around (when are cars convenient, which public transport options are there), things to do in general (in all areas of these countries), and things to do for families, weather and climate, money issues, etc etc. They also offer itinerary suggestions.

- Of course you could decide to mix and match. Maybe a few nights in the crowded urbanized area in the west of the Netherlands first, and then rent a car and drive to the Ardennes in Belgium for some green time in the hills and forests and doing outdoor sports & games. Drive back to Rotterdam to drop the car off and get the ferry.

- Since you mentioned the ferry that makes me think you are not coming directly from LA but from the UK. Are you aware that there is also a very easy train connection from London to Brussels (in only 2 hours!)? Or all the way to Rotterdam / Amsterdam (only 4 hours for London - Amsterdam). See https://www.seat61.com/Belgium.htm and https://www.seat61.com/Netherlands.htm

Less polluting than the ferry too. ;-) And a lot faster from city center to city center than the 11 hour ferry ride (excluding the trip to Hull, and from the ferry terminal in Rotterdam to the center!).

For example you could take this train to Rotterdam, spend time in the western cities and smaller towns in the Netherlands, then take a train from Rotterdam to Brussels (optionally spending a few hours in Antwerp along the way as well), rent a car from there to visit the Ardennes region, drop the car off in Brussels, take the train directly from Brussels to London. Just an idea.

Good luck making choices out of the thousands of places of interest in these 2 countries. ;-)

Amsterdam, The...
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4. Re: itinerary help! NL and/or BE from Rotterdam

As for the 'renting a car', I had understood your original post as meaning to rent a car in the Netherlands (or in Belgium), not in the UK.

But in case you meant renting in the UK: that would not make sense. You pay loads extra for bringing a car on board of the ferry and you would have to get used to driving in a car with the steering wheel on the "wrong" side (assuming that you are indeed from LA). And for no reason at all: the steering wheel on the right side is only convenient if you actually drive on the left. It's not that hard to get used to it for most people but cost-wise it just would not make sense to pay for a car on the ferry.

But perhaps now that you learned about the 2 hour direct train from London to Brussels you won't even use the ferry anymore. ;-)

Los Angeles...
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5. Re: itinerary help! NL and/or BE from Rotterdam

Wow! Thank you so much for all of this information!!

I hadn't heard of the bungalow parks before - that is so cool. I wish they had those in the US as well! I'll look into each of your recommendations.

Amsterdam, The...
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6. Re: itinerary help! NL and/or BE from Rotterdam

Yes, this is a website that might help compare bungalow parks: https://www.bungalows.nl/ but like I said I would avoid CenterParcs. Overpriced, cramped bungalows, dirty and old.

Of course you can also rent apartments through other websites and that are not necessarily in such parks. But the parks offer lots of convenience for parents with young kids. If there are only few hours between lunch and nap time for example, it's very easy to take the kids (or just 1 of them) to the pool or a playground nearby, then do the nap, then something else, and if one got dirty clothes in the playground you're at home in an instant to change into new ones, and most bungalows also have a washing machine as far as I remember (but make sure, in case you need one).

These parks are dotted all over the Netherlands and Belgium has quite a few as well. Indeed the Hansa towns in the east are in a very nice part of the country but you could also decide to choose a beachside bungalow park so that you can also let the kids play in the sand and sea if the weather permits, or perhaps even on one of the Wadden islands.

You may want to start looking into the dates offered by such bungalow parks, many of them only work with "weekend"/ "midweek"/ "full week" bookings, not a random Wednesday through Saturday booking for example.

Edited: 2 years ago
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